Yeah, these guys know about sex! - Uh-huh, yep . . .
Well, the Bishops have reaffirmed celibacy for priests (and some other things too)! See excerpts far below.
Yep.
“Hey you guys in black, No hanky-panky!! Just say "no!" No sex with women! No sex with men! No sex with girls! No sex with boys! No sex with animals! No sex alone! NO SEX!!!”
The bishops call this hormonal denial the "inestimable gift of ecclesiastical celibacy." Gift to whom?
Oh yeah, I can tell you that if I had ONLY been blessed with a lifetime free of orgasms, THAT would have been better than my first bike, my first car, my trip to Europe, a free steak dinner, and my band playing in Manhattan – all rolled up together!! Yes sir!! What a gift!!
It’s just stupid, political inertia. Celibacy wasn’t demanded by any authority for almost 400 years after Jesus’ life, and today it is supported on the dubious and unsubstantiated claim that Jesus never had sex of any kind (hence all the hierarchy’s noise about “The DaVinci Code”). They also drag my old buddy, Paul of Tarsus, into the justification – but fail to mention that some scholars believe Paul to have been a self-hating homosexual.
Now this whole nonsense isn’t considered infallible by the church, but enough withered old theologians and deranged sex-o-phobiacs feel they would lose face if they did something sensible, that they feel compelled – as they say – to show “massive unanimity” in their massive idiocy. Otherwise their idiocy will be found out.
Galileo was persecuted because, using his eyes, he saw that the moons of Jupiter orbited that planet. The official policy of the Church at the time was that THAT was impossible (based firmly on the knowledge banks of withered old theologians and infallible popes [who themselves had been elevated by DEMOCRATIC means {god didn’t get a vote} from the ranks of the withered old theologians themselves – those wise men “lucky” enough to wear red beanies and, therefore, be allowed to vote] ).
So Galileo was denounced and denigrated – not just during his lifetime, mind you; but for five hundred years!! Only recently did the snail-minded / we-don’t-want-to-lose-face crowd admit their mistake!!
I guess Galileo can go to heaven – Now!!!
If there are any descendents of the telescope guy out there, get a lawyer! I think you’ve got a pretty good case for false-arrest and defamation!!! Don’t believe that stuff about the Church being broke because of paying out big bucks on pedophile cases! They can always mortgage St. Peter’s Basilica. Have you SEEN that place?
Moreover, if they think men can go indefinitely without sex and stay sane, and if they believe that divorced men and women can move in with each other and live indefinitely in "loyal and trustworthy friendship" without “consummating it,” and if they think each bishop can cherry-pick which politicians to beat up on at the communion rail (based on "concrete local situations"), they NEED to be brought to their senses!!!!
- Uke Man
Some excerpts from Yahoo news:
Bishops Reaffirm Celibacy for Priests
By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer
While acknowledging the acute shortage of priests in the Roman Catholic Church, bishops from around the world reaffirmed the church's stance on celibacy for priests Saturday in a set of 50 recommendations they agreed to submit to Pope Benedict XVI.
The proposals, meant for the pope to consider in a future document on the Eucharist, also dealt with whether Communion should be denied to Catholic politicians who support laws that contradict church teaching, such as the right to abortion, as well as the plight of Catholics who divorce and remarry without getting an annulment.
The estimated 250 bishops who gathered for the three-week Synod of Bishops voted behind closed doors on the recommendations, which disappointed some church reform groups by hewing closely to church teaching.
. . . the final recommendation reaffirmed the "inestimable gift of ecclesiastical celibacy" and said the idea of ordaining "viri probati" [married men] was a "path not to follow," according to the list of the propositions released by the Vatican.
The proposition also called for Catholics to pray for new priests.
"They opened the issue, talked solutions, then ran as fast as they could in the other directions," said Sister Christine Schenk, of the reform groups FutureChurch and Call to Action.
Among their other recommendations, the bishops said Catholic politicians should realize their "grave social responsibility" and not support laws that contrast with church teaching.
But no blanket recommendation was made on whether the politicians should be denied Communion, with a final proposal saying local bishops "should exercise the virtues of firmness and prudence taking into account concrete local situations."
The issue gained attention during the 2004 presidential campaign when St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke said he would deny the Eucharist to Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, a Catholic who supports abortion rights.
Another major issue of the synod was how to deal with Catholics who divorce and remarry without getting an annulment. Church teaching says such Catholics cannot receive Communion because their situation "objectively contrasts with God's law."
The bishops reaffirmed church policy but called for these people to make "every possible effort" to have their previous marriages annulled. If the marriages cannot be declared invalid, the couple should celebrate their new marriage as a "loyal and trustworthy friendship" — meaning they shouldn't consummate it.
Yep.
“Hey you guys in black, No hanky-panky!! Just say "no!" No sex with women! No sex with men! No sex with girls! No sex with boys! No sex with animals! No sex alone! NO SEX!!!”
The bishops call this hormonal denial the "inestimable gift of ecclesiastical celibacy." Gift to whom?
Oh yeah, I can tell you that if I had ONLY been blessed with a lifetime free of orgasms, THAT would have been better than my first bike, my first car, my trip to Europe, a free steak dinner, and my band playing in Manhattan – all rolled up together!! Yes sir!! What a gift!!
It’s just stupid, political inertia. Celibacy wasn’t demanded by any authority for almost 400 years after Jesus’ life, and today it is supported on the dubious and unsubstantiated claim that Jesus never had sex of any kind (hence all the hierarchy’s noise about “The DaVinci Code”). They also drag my old buddy, Paul of Tarsus, into the justification – but fail to mention that some scholars believe Paul to have been a self-hating homosexual.
Now this whole nonsense isn’t considered infallible by the church, but enough withered old theologians and deranged sex-o-phobiacs feel they would lose face if they did something sensible, that they feel compelled – as they say – to show “massive unanimity” in their massive idiocy. Otherwise their idiocy will be found out.
Galileo was persecuted because, using his eyes, he saw that the moons of Jupiter orbited that planet. The official policy of the Church at the time was that THAT was impossible (based firmly on the knowledge banks of withered old theologians and infallible popes [who themselves had been elevated by DEMOCRATIC means {god didn’t get a vote} from the ranks of the withered old theologians themselves – those wise men “lucky” enough to wear red beanies and, therefore, be allowed to vote] ).
So Galileo was denounced and denigrated – not just during his lifetime, mind you; but for five hundred years!! Only recently did the snail-minded / we-don’t-want-to-lose-face crowd admit their mistake!!
I guess Galileo can go to heaven – Now!!!
If there are any descendents of the telescope guy out there, get a lawyer! I think you’ve got a pretty good case for false-arrest and defamation!!! Don’t believe that stuff about the Church being broke because of paying out big bucks on pedophile cases! They can always mortgage St. Peter’s Basilica. Have you SEEN that place?
Moreover, if they think men can go indefinitely without sex and stay sane, and if they believe that divorced men and women can move in with each other and live indefinitely in "loyal and trustworthy friendship" without “consummating it,” and if they think each bishop can cherry-pick which politicians to beat up on at the communion rail (based on "concrete local situations"), they NEED to be brought to their senses!!!!
- Uke Man
Some excerpts from Yahoo news:
Bishops Reaffirm Celibacy for Priests
By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer
While acknowledging the acute shortage of priests in the Roman Catholic Church, bishops from around the world reaffirmed the church's stance on celibacy for priests Saturday in a set of 50 recommendations they agreed to submit to Pope Benedict XVI.
The proposals, meant for the pope to consider in a future document on the Eucharist, also dealt with whether Communion should be denied to Catholic politicians who support laws that contradict church teaching, such as the right to abortion, as well as the plight of Catholics who divorce and remarry without getting an annulment.
The estimated 250 bishops who gathered for the three-week Synod of Bishops voted behind closed doors on the recommendations, which disappointed some church reform groups by hewing closely to church teaching.
. . . the final recommendation reaffirmed the "inestimable gift of ecclesiastical celibacy" and said the idea of ordaining "viri probati" [married men] was a "path not to follow," according to the list of the propositions released by the Vatican.
The proposition also called for Catholics to pray for new priests.
"They opened the issue, talked solutions, then ran as fast as they could in the other directions," said Sister Christine Schenk, of the reform groups FutureChurch and Call to Action.
Among their other recommendations, the bishops said Catholic politicians should realize their "grave social responsibility" and not support laws that contrast with church teaching.
But no blanket recommendation was made on whether the politicians should be denied Communion, with a final proposal saying local bishops "should exercise the virtues of firmness and prudence taking into account concrete local situations."
The issue gained attention during the 2004 presidential campaign when St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke said he would deny the Eucharist to Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, a Catholic who supports abortion rights.
Another major issue of the synod was how to deal with Catholics who divorce and remarry without getting an annulment. Church teaching says such Catholics cannot receive Communion because their situation "objectively contrasts with God's law."
The bishops reaffirmed church policy but called for these people to make "every possible effort" to have their previous marriages annulled. If the marriages cannot be declared invalid, the couple should celebrate their new marriage as a "loyal and trustworthy friendship" — meaning they shouldn't consummate it.
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